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Cindy Sheehan “Peace Movement Should Join Truthers”

April 3rd, 2010

This woman has become very sad indeed.  Calling for an end to war is a legitimate and rational objective, But hitching your wagon to a group of conspiracy theorist loons is no way to go about it and only denigrates the peace movement.  It drive away the rationalist.  Ok, so why not get the Moon landing hoax people involved and the JFK plot people involved in this “Big Tent” objective as well?  Why stop there?  An uncomfortably large number of 9/11 Truthers hold anti Semite views, are few being down and out Holocaust deniers, let get them too.

This kind of crap happen in the 60s, communist, socialist and Marxist infiltrated the anti Viet Nam war protesters and far to many peaceniks were too politically correct to ask them to leave, it would not be groovy.  I remember when the Beatles came out with a song that made the statement “If you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao, you ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow”  the radical left were up in arms, how dare John Lennon point out the obvious, leftist politics doesn’t have anything to do with peace. in fact some of these radicals were promoting quite violent actions. Everything from ecology, no nukes, drug law reform and woman’s liberation got thrown into the Viet Nam war protest and only made them look disorganized and at times down right loony.  Marxist vegans for the liberation of cows.

Sheehan seems to be overly gullible and too full of that 60s none judgemental mentality.  Sorry but sometimes you do need to make a judgment, sometimes you do need to tell the guy in the tin foil hat he is a kook and a detriment to the cause. Being overly influenced by conspiracy theories does make you a lover of peace, it makes you a sucker.

YouTube – Cindy Sheehan on “CAMP OUT NOW” Call to Action in DC.

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Actor/Comedian Hal Sparks 9/11 Idiot

February 7th, 2010

Hal Sparks-18So in keep with the enormous “Brain Trust” (note the sarcasm) of 9/11 Truth famous like Charlie Sheen, Rosie O’Donnell, Heidi. Spencer, Janeane Garofalo, Woody Harrelson, Mos Def, Willie Nelson, (pot thing) and Jesse Ventura we have this guy who I am told was in Spider Man. Who the hell is Hal Sparks, and why is he such a pin head? AND his first observation on 9/11 is, get this…. Some of the hijackers are still alive.

So… what YOU want me to believe here Hal, is that some of these hijackers are sitting alive and well somewhere for nine years, and all they or anyone else unfriendly to the US government has to do to expose the big USA false flag operation of 9/11 is to pull them out in front of a camera for all the world to see? It sure would take the blame off Muslims. BUT….. They do NOT????? Hey Hal….. Maybe you don’t see that happening is because THEY ARE DEAD! It’s a thing called “LOGIC”, you should try it sometime. As with all truthers I have met I realize you are probably not very well informed or very bright, but we are talking pure logic here. How do you tell something you are being told is bullshit or real? In other words, How do you NOT become a sucker? Ask yourself what about this observation doesn’t wash. If someone tells you Elvis is alive or they have a fire breathing dragon in their garage, your next question should, “Well, Lets see him or it?”

YouTube – Actor/Comedian Hal Sparks Speaks Out In Support of 9/11 Truth.


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Goats of a Feather Herd Together

January 11th, 2010

tmwsagI have been reading “The Men who Stare at Goats” a book and movie based on the true story of General Albert Stubblebine who started a unit of military men with so called psychic abilities. He believed that a soldier could adopt the cloak of invisibility, pass cleanly through walls and, perhaps most chillingly, kill goats just by staring at them. Of course none of this worked and lots of tax dollars were spent investigating this bunkum, the general became a bit of a joke as a result.

So I should not have been surprised that the man who ran into his office wall thinking he could melt right through it using the power of his mind would also buy into the nonsense of the 9/11 Truth people.  Me thinks the general must have run head first into that wall on more than just one occasion. It would seem that many in the truth movement do have a tendency to follow the leader rather quickly and without vetting so Stubblebine is welcomed by many a truther. They think of the person as an authority because they have a title, Dr. or General, former USG official.

Major General Albert Stubblebine: Towers Fell Down Because of Explosives | World for 9/11 Truth | W9T.org.

One thing I have learned when dealing with truthers is they like to embrace all sort of claptrap.  You know those condensation trails you see coming out of high flying jets? In trutherville it is thought to be chemical spraying of mind control drugs or weather changing compounds.  And then you have the subset of truthers who believe no airplanes hit the towers, No-Planers who buy the idea of holographic projections were what everyone saw.  High energy space beam weapons are popular with a certain faction. Your basic big tent of loonies.

The only good point of the general involvement is it have sparked accusations of disinformation among members of the “Truth” movement. The infighting among the “planers” and “no-planers”,  the controlled demolition and non-controlled demolition and the “Let it happen on purpose” LIHOP  and the “Made it happen on purpose” MIHOP  is comedy  gold. I myself get accused of being a paid government agent because I happen to have enough sense to call a kook a kook. Yeah, Yeah, I know, it’s not cool or politically correct dismiss others deeply felt ideas, but when your idea is pure 100% crap like staring at goats with deadly intent or thinking the WTC was a controlled demolition one would be a fool himself to entertain the ideas as some how based on reality.

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Cindy Sheehan Embracing 9/11 Crackpottery

January 10th, 2010

Cindy Sheehan is still proving herself a huge embarrassment to the anti war cause. In this recent podcast she says….

“I think a new investigation is something that many many people agree with, if people don’t start saying, ‘It’s an inside job.’ Because that turns a lot of people off, even though I think it (9-11) was an inside job, I just don’t know how far inside it went. But as soon as you say it’s an inside job, people start saying, oh, you’re accusing Dick Cheney of planning the whole thing, blah blah blah. Well, of course, some people are (laughs) but then people say, we don’t know, we need to find out. Was it CIA? Was it whoever? Whoever, um, it had to be an inside job. There’s like no way they could have done that, just like the one on December 25th. There’s no way that guy could have done it without some kind of help, and we know he got help. Who was (crosstalk) that nice-dressed man that got him through that these people witnessed, got him through security?”

Podcast Alpha Pictoris by Paul Tassopulos.

Really?… Please will someone tell her the “Inside Job” thing is dead.  All that is left is a small band of science illiterate conspiracy theorist kooks still stuck in a 2005 mind set. And are we now to believe the Underwear Bomber was an inside job?  Listen Cindy, I know you are not a genius by any stretch of the word but try thinking a little here, if the Christmas eve event was a CIA black ops job the bombing would have been more of a terror inducing incident rather than a joke, “Ha Ha, silly terrorist couldn’t even blow his own balls off”, what’s to be afraid of?

If it were a false flag operation designed to instill fear in people the aircraft would have gone down or the terrorist would have blown himself up and taken several people with him. And he would have direct links to Al Qieda rather than being a sad mixed up rich kid.

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Fort Hood was an Inside Job, It had to Happen.

November 9th, 2009

Starting to hear rumbling of Fort Hood being and “Inside Job”.  The reality of this event is just not good enough for the conspiracy theorist loonies, they have to concoct a giant plot fitting their particular political or religious ideology. Like JFK or 9/11, They often blames the government, New World Order and of course “The Jews”, every one but the people who in reality, did it. The reality is, it happened inside and the guy who did it was an insider.

http://www.legitgov.org/attack_on_fort_hood_051109.html

And seeing as it had even turned up at Yahoo Answers http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091107174905AAKzB4m One would have to assume it is true! After all Yahoo Answers is epitome of intellectual insights and logic.

The first to jump on the kook express are of course the 9/11 Inside Job crackpots. The comments over at 911blogger have the same lame “Only asking questions” tactic, Gee! as if the early reports coming out of a hectic event such as this would NOT contain some inaccuracies and confusion.
Fort Hood Shooting ‘Oddities’

Submitted by Orangutan. on Sat, 11/07/2009 One can only assume “Orangutan” is an observation on the posters evolutionary rank.

I saw a comment over on BradBlog that said this was a traditional case of mutiny on the base. After they got things settled, they didn’t want that fact to come out because it might encourage others who are feeling the same way to act out the same way, so they framed this psychiatrist who may have just been injured in the incident. Of course this is all speculation, but with the initial reports it kind of makes sense. We’ll see what comes of it if anything.

So apparently the conspiracy is that soldiers are in an armed revolt and being shot by other soldiers and the entire episode is being covered up and an innocent Muslim Army Major being made the scapegoat.

My question becomes, “How do I cash in on the scam?” Conspiracy theorist being the gullible suckers they are prime candidates for a little fleecing, If I were a scum bag I would write a book, maybe a DVD to sell to the rubes.
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The French Did 9/11!!!!!!

September 2nd, 2009

A very interesting controlled demolition technique in common use in France. It involves going into a prepared structure and using hydraulic jacks or other mechanical means to knock out key supports. The upper block of the building then demolishes the rest of the structure using nothing but gravity. a feat 9/11 truthers say is impossible!

And to add insult to injury here is more.
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You will note the upper block of mass is not slowed down much by the rest of the building. The collapse occurs quite quickly. The debris is largely confined. Though some appears propelled out the sides. The collapse of the entire structure is achieved by highly localized one or two floors failures.

So are we to now believe the French did 9/11? Yeah we all know how friendly the French are towards the US. Gee, to bad the truthers got so invested in the thermite deal, or Super Nano Thermite or whatever imagined material these kooks pull from their asses. They could have used the “French CD Technique” as the smoking gun clue. At least it LOOKS like what happened to the towers. And the American population tend to hate those Frogs, so truthers would have had a more receptive audience.

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Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: Lies and Distortions

August 27th, 2009

YouTube – Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: Lies and Distortions.

In 1998 I saw this implosion in person, and ever though I was a good mile and a half away the sound was deafening and had the characteristic even spacing you hear in REAL controlled demolitions. Nothing at all like the events of 9-11-01.

YouTube – Massive Building Implosion – Detroit.


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Active Thermitic Material ??????

July 27th, 2009

An impressive detailed look by Undicisettembre at the “Peer Reviewed” paper presented by Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, Danish chemistry professor Niels Harrit that claims to show “active thermitic material” at the site of the World Trade Center.

“Active Thermitic Material” Claimed in Ground Zero Dust May Not Be Thermitic At All

In short Undicisettembre found this supposed super spray on thermite has all the same chemical properties of primers and rust proofing paints used to protect the steel used at the WTC.

It becomes a matter of logic, if you believe people like Jones, Ryan and Harrit you would have to believe massive steel beams were destroyed by a Magic “paint-on” thermite coating only millimeters thick! and that somehow someone was able to gain access to the beams and columns without notice. And that no one before or since has demonstrated the viability of this theory even on a small scale.

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Three guys who are known for their conspiracy theorist views on 9/11, who sell books and who are paid to give talks promoting the conspiracy ideas have created a scientific sounding paper, had it published by a Pay to Publish journal, because no legitimate science journal would touch it, that PAINTS common primer coatings and rust proofing paint as super duper beam melting weapon?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That’s science.

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1000 lbs of thermite can’t even melt an SUV

July 8th, 2009

Of course if you believe the 9/11 conspiracy theorist, thermite was used to melt core columns in the WTC that were much more massive than then the bodywork of an SUV. Then you have the fact thermite is ill suited for controlled demolition work, burns too slow and requires a very hot ignition source just to get started. That is why it never has been used for controlled demolitions. But because Steve Jones said there was thermite, the 9/11 truth sheeple ate it up and pucked it back out at every opportunity.

Of course when faced with this inconvenient truth that thermite is unusable for controlled demolitions, truthers started to invent imaginary super secret “Nano” thermite. You can get these idiots to believe anything is possible by just using the latest buzz word. It’s not like the type of person who would buy this crap has the gray matter to understand the science of nano technology and it’s limitation. To these simpletons the word is enough, DUDE!!!!! it’s was NANO Thermite!!!! DUDE!.

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7 WTC Shortly before collapsing

July 8th, 2009

You are told by the conspiracy hucksters that building seven suffered only minor damage. This news reporters experience paints a very different picture.

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9/11 Truthers Just as Good as CRAP

June 12th, 2009

9/11 truthers were all atwitter when Steven Jones announced he along with Kevin Ryan, Neils Harritt and Tony Szamboti had gotten a paper accepted in a “Peer Reviewed” science Journal. A first for the conspiracy theorist promoting the idea a super duper double secret nano thermite had brought down the World Trade Center.

Unfortunately debunkers soon pointed out the science journal in question was Bentham Open Journals, a for all intents and purposes a vanity publisher. You pay, they publish. Not exactly a REAL peer reviewed publisher of hard core science information. This did little to get the tin foil hat wearing conspiracy huckster taken seriously by scientist who know what they are talking about.

The dubious quality of Bentham’s peer review process has been brought into clear focus by a graduate student at Cornell University. They got a paper accepted by Bentham that consisted of nothing but computer generated nonsense.

In this section, we discuss existing research into red-black trees, vacuum tubes, and courseware [10]. On a similar note, recent work by Takahashi suggests a methodology for providing robust modalities, but does not offer an implementation [9].

The writers of the paper even dropped a hint of the hoax by giving their institutional affiliation as the Center for Research in Applied Phrenology, or CRAP.

CRAP paper accepted by journal – opinion – 11 June 2009 – New Scientist.

This is not the first time “pay-to-play” journals have been had. The Cornell students withdrew the hoax paper, Why? Because they are students, and Bentham wants $800 to publish.

The 9/11 Truth movement dies a slow but humorous death but does provide a good laugh from time to time.

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Ventura Still Brain Damaged

May 22nd, 2009

Jesse Ventura On Fox And Friends still hasn’t figured out why the World Trade Center towers fell. He employes the intellectual cowards ploy of “just asking questions.” Yeah, when you have no real proof, you try and elevate questions to the level of facts.

Yeah, Jesse, we get it, you are not smart enough to understand that the towers didn’t fall at the so called “free fall” rate, hell I tend to believe the man never even heard of the concept of free fall before latching onto the conspiracy theorist hype surrounding 9/11. To this mullet head it’s a buzz word he picked up from a conspiracy site, sound good, but he doesn’t really understand the concept.

Apparently his knowledge of basic physics is even more lacking, or he would know the energy necessary to bring the towers down was always in the buildings in the form of potential gravitational energy. When a shitload of mass falls, it releases lots of pulverizing kinetic energy, no explosives needed. It’s been over 7 years and the 9/11 truth loons still have learned nothing but how to parrot long debunked conspiracy claptrap.

Only in America would we take the ramblings of a former frogman turned wrestler as something that deserves consideration or even election to public office. Maybe if Ventura has all these “Questions” he should talk to a structural engineer with the talent to build skyscrapers, these guys understand the forces involved, you will note they are not the ones asking questions.

Asking stupid questions does not make one a patriot. It only makes you look like a fool.
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Christopher Hitchens vs Mos Def

March 31st, 2009

OK, So having Mos Def on the same panel with Christopher Hitchens and Salman Rushdie is like sending a one legged man to an ass kicking contest. Borat has made more sense.

I love the part where he say he doesn’t know what Bin Laden says in his videos because he doesn’t speak Arabic. OK, not like there is no shortage people who can translate it for you. And the part where he makes a big point of saying he doesn’t mind holding the unpopular idea, DUH MOS! You are sitting next to Salman Rushdie and two unabashed atheist. From what I can see Mos doesn’t mind holding a stupid idea.

And what is it with rappers and these days? Snoop Dogg joins the Nation of Islam Could this be what too many drugs do for you?

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Large Conspiracies, Just Don’t Happen

March 29th, 2009

Sorry, But if you are the type who get pleasure out of imagining that you have figured out some grand conspiracy, you are not going to like what I have to say.

tinfoilhatarea1The fact is, acting alone, Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy, Governor Connally, and police officer Tippit in November of 1963, Oswald was a loser in life and did it for his own twisted politics and to boost his ego. On September 11 2001, disciples of a Islamist theocrat Osama bin-Laden crashed hijacked aircraft and themselves along with hundreds of other passengers into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Why? Because of twisted religious fundamentalism, they believed America to be the great devil. The Jews, CIA, or George Bush did not do it. The Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission are nothing more than a social clubs of otherwise powerful people. The Illuminati are nothing more than the imaginary boogie men of the rationally challenged. The Jewish conspiracy books Protocols of the Elders of Zion are fabrications concocted by bigots.

With that said small conspiracies by alienated misfits can often be quite successful at changing history. The assassination of Lincoln was a successful conspiracy of a few. The assassination of an Austrian Archduke in Serbia in 1914 started World War One. Two homeless kooks cause near panic in Washington by playing snipers. Two guys, Timothy McVay and Terry Nichols blew up theMurrah Federal Building with a crude but powerful ammonium nitrate truck bomb.

There are some very important reasons immense conspiracies do not happen, the greatest being the bigger they are the less likely they are to succeed, and more likely they are to be exposed. As Benjamin Franklin once said “Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead.” The more people who know, the more likely it is someone will blab, and people do talk, be it for money, fame or just because they found god on their death beds. Knowing this propensity for man to blather, anyone who entrust an important secret to anyone else is a fool. Best you could hope for is that the secret is kept hush-hush just long enough the plan to be achieved. People who are in the position to orchestrate any sort of covert action know this, and take it into account. KISS Keep It Simple Stupid, keep the numbers of operations small so to prevent failure in any one act from spoiling the entire enterprise.

The popular idea of a ruling inner circle of humanity who grandly orchestrates great events from behind the scenes seems to excite more interest from the general public. Movie makers play up to this accepted all the time, the hero thwarts the evil governments plan, saves the days and gets the girl. Ha, If only real life were like that. Problem is believers of insider conspiracy theories see themselves as the hero, a Quixotic syndrome, an illusory reassurance of their own virtue. Conspiracy give us hope when we feel powerless, all we have to do is kill one big dragon and all will be well with the world.

Conspiracy mavins ignore the fact that the average working Joe who supposedly implement these actions must have super human dedication to their jobs. Imaging if Jack Ruby really was induced by the mafia or the CIA to shoot Lee Harvey Oswald, rather than by his anger over JFK’s assassination. Why would Ruby be willing to spend the rest of his life in prison, and not squeal or blab about his place in the event? Hell, the mafia doesn’t command that level of silence from it’s own family members, a little heroin bust and a few years of possible jail time has sent many a mob lieutenant singing to the cops. You would have to believe such conspiratorial behavior presupposes one heck of a sense of integrity and dedication on the part of all participants. Not to mention brilliantly effective coordination among far flung conspiracy members. To accept these big conspiracy theories, one must honestly feel that there are large numbers of people willing to suffer, die, kill, lose their wealth and reputation, and yet still keep silent in order to protect the good name, wealth, and power of some greedy individuals. Sorry but people just aren’t that dedicated. I dare say most people if enticed to join in a plot to kill the president or a large number of fellow Americans would run, not walk to the authorities or the press just to save their own skin. They would know that to get involved with this crime would be far to great a risk.

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The conspiratorial mind set also provides a coinvent cover for ignorant bigoted people. They make the villains of these imagined conspiracies to be the educated wealthy, the Illuminati, bankers, business people. Conspiracy thinking is greater among uneducated who may be inclined to believe it’s the elite who are keeping them down, rather then their own lack of education. And while we a demonizing lets not forget the ever popular Jews. One of the first clues that 9/11 was orchestrated by someone other than Arab terrorist is the rumor, “No Jews died on 9/11″. Other times it is pure political rhetoric, all republicans are fascist, all Democrats are pinko Commies.

With that said, powerful people, movements, and institutions can carry out manipulative deceptive acts and nefarious agendas with success. But even they know these acts can not be kept secret for long, The Gulf of Tonkin Incident is all but ignored, Iran Contra meant only a small amount of jail time at Club Fed for Oliver North and didn’t effect President Reagan at all. For the people who did these actions the benefits far outweighed the inconvenience when the plots were exposed. Far cry from events like JFK and 9/11 were the benefits are so small and the risk astronomical. We are talking treason and mass murder here, something the you won’t be able to minimize with large amounts of Spin Doctoring.

Let’s not forget it is conspiracy theorist who have carried out the worst evils. Nazi propaganda was based on the fantasy of a conspiratorial nature of Jews. Socialist paint a conspiratorial view of individual capitalism, Jonestown and Waco were driven by madmen who taught a conspiratorial view of government, Muslims see the rest of the western world as infidels out to get them.

So the next time someone tries to get you to drink the conspiracy Kool-Aid, ask yourself if YOU would get involved with the proposed conspiracy or if YOU would keep quiet about it if you knew of it. Chances are you would not, and chances are neither would anybody else. Chances are the proposed conspiracy is just pure bullshit.

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Hitting it Right one the Head

March 27th, 2009


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Obama Derangement Syndrome

March 24th, 2009
Why are truthers such douchebags?

Why are truthers such douchebags?

Like the Bush variant, conservatives now seem to have caught a Derangement Syndrome.

The epidemic of Bush Derangement Syndrome BDS hit its peak about a year ago, affecting mostly 20 something slackers living in moms basement watching YouTube videos, and ageing drug addled hippies. The affection is characterized by a propensity to believe any nonsense idea so long as you blame on George Bush. The disease attacked the cognitive areas of the brain preventing the normal flow of logic and important critical analysis. Suddenly you could find yourself listening to Alex Jones, wearing a black T-shirt emblazened with “911 Was An Inside Job” and babbling twaddle about “Free Fall” “Pull It” and my favorite “Super Nano Thermite”. Severe cases may even find themselves wondering aloud about Mini Nukes and Directed Energy Weapons. The fact GWB was for the most part an incompetent boob spouting his own brand of bunkum about science and religion sure didn’t help alleviate the confusion of the non compos mentis. I swear, I think these guy miss old George. Lacking facts and science to back up their 9/11 conspiracy theory, Bush blunders were all they had as a selling point. Now Bush is gone, and being a fairly bright guy the current President pays trurhers no attention.

You had cases of Clinton Derangement Syndrome years ago but it sat dormant for eight years before mutating into the present variant, Obama Derangement Syndrome ODS. Today “Birthers” are the new Truthers. Birthers claim to have questions about Obama’s citizenship, mind you they have no actual proof, but like their truther counterparts they feel questions alone add up to something real. Bet you these are the same people who had questions about Bill Clinton and Vince Foster’s death.

obama_deceptionLike most social diseases ODS spreads through unprotected contact with unclean media whores like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter and the rest of the brothel staff at FOX news. Wow!!! I shouldn’t have done that! now I have a vision in my head of Ann Coulter saying “Me Love You Long Time”. Being a consummate Camp Follower himself Alex Jones has gotten down on his knees to service his new clientele with his own “The Obama Deception” Movie. The man sure knows how to cash in, and who can blame him, just look at the money Oliver Stone’s film JFK made selling popular pablum to an credulous public. Look, if you are going to listen to FOX news or Alex Jones or any of the talk radio programs, for gods sake, double-up on the brain condoms.

Sad part is this mental malignancy has stayed with the original BDS sufferers. So now you’ve got a bunch of moron who still go on and on about Cheney McBush, and a bunch of right wing clowns babbling on about Hussein Obama. In the future look for new and more virulent strains of ODS as the conspiracy theory business machine ramps up for the new crop of gullible rubes, this shit sells and suckers are born every minute.

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