You got to love the diverse nature of the crackpots who inhabit the 911 Truth movement.
In 2004 Jerome R. Corsi’s wrote “Unfit for Command,” which inspired the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth in their attack of presidential hopeful Senator John Kerry. His new book “Obama Nation.” is a similar hit piece on Barack Obama. Corsi is by his nature racist, anti-Semitic and believe 911 Was an Inside Job.
I got a little chuckle out of a comment on this blog that the collapse of the WTC was surely a controlled demolition, The reason? The poster proposed that the reason was “the physics of the event was self-evident”. NOT because he had any real proof of a deliberate implosion, but the weakest reason of all, the persons own personal obsevation. Now when someone calls an event “self evident” you know you are dealing with someone who is too stupid or far too lazy too dig up any real facts to back up their observation. And the self evident nature of the observation had to take into consideration the knowledge of the observer. If you don’t know what you are looking at, it is far too easy to be fooled.
To make a point, in 1492, Columbus sailed the oceans blue. The far to common legend even today is that old Chris did this to prove the Earth was round. But nothing could be further from the truth. Enlightened individuals of that time already knew the Earth was round and even had some idea of its size. The Greek philosopher Aristotle argued in his writings that the Earth was spherical. Fact is Christopher Columbus proposed to reach India by sailing west from Spain. He reasoned a longer westward sea route would work. It may have proven true but Columbus used an erroneous estimate of distance based on calculations by Ptolemy. King Ferdinand hired experts and scientist of the time to examine the proposal made by Columbus, and they in fact got the much longer distance correct. but as it is Queen Isabella overruled the experts and Chris sailed away. Hey, Lets face it, He got lucky!!!, if North American was not sitting where it is now he may well have died in the middle of a colossal sea journey.
But what has this got to do with the “self evident” nature of 9/11? You see the uneducated “common man” of 1492 may well have thought Columbus would sail off the edge of the world because to them it was so “self-evident”, the Earth was flat, Hey! it looks flat, right? “Dude!!! Just look the Earth is flat as a pancake” As with everything else the more enlightened members of society knew better and I can imaging them having a hell of a time trying to explain a round Earth to a bunch of dirt farmers who’s “self evident” world didn’t reach beyond their flat farm fields. This would rear it’s head again when good old science, with the help of Copernacus proved the Earth revolved around the Sun. But to the Church and other members of the unenlightened masses it was “self evident”, the Earth was not moving and the Sun and stars were spinning around over our heads.
And now we hear the same “common man wisdom” coming from a group of people who as a group know the nothing about structural dynamics of tall buildings, little of controlled demolitions and even less of the events surrounding 9/11. To them the towers were a controlled demolition not because they know how the a controlled demolition is done or the tremendous structural loads in a 1300 foot building, but because “Dude! It’s Self Evident”. “DUH… it LOOKS like one of them implosions I done sawd’ on my TV” It’s sold as an attractive proposition, you don’t need to know all that fancy physics stuff, that’s just those egg head science types trying to hold you down, you don’t need to research how events actually transpired, Why bother with all those pesky “facts”, you got YouTube and it’s self evident, the Earth is flat, the Sun revolves around the Earth and 9/11 was an inside job.
In the late 90s scientist finally started to make headway in stopping the Leaning Tower of Pisa from reaching a point of collapse. Why did I say “collapse”? Well because that was the danger, as the southward lean of the tower increased it was putting loads on the structure it was not designed to take. At a point these load would cause the tower to break apart and crumble. And that is exactly what happened to the WTC towers on 9/11.
To the people who are not well versed in physics the idea something as massive as the twin towers would fall over like a tree might sound reasonable. But to the scientific literate this kind of observation sounds childish at best. It speaks volumes to the state of scientific education in this country. You wonder where people get these ideas, perhaps watching old Godliza movies or the recent Cloverfield flick where one tall building is seen leaning over onto another, great special effects but most likely, not realistic. OR they get it from reading conspiracy theorist sites who tell them the towers should have fallen over. Sites who get their ideas not from scientist or real structural engineers, but from a theologian like David Ray Griffin. Even Griffin had decided to stop arguing points of science because he is only now realizing how wrong he tends to be on the subject.
These towers were not solid one piece structures like a tree, but were made up of hundreds of thousands of smaller components some of them welded and bolted together. Each one of these connection points offered a spot that was weaker than the component itself. Two columns held together with four bolts in a compression loaded state could hold together indefinitely, but put a sheer load on that same column and the bolts will break with relative ease.
These people think just because something is big it is conversely strong, when in fact the strength to mass ratio is never exponential equal. This little fact was observed by none other than Galileo long ago.
Galileo on Scaling
Galileo addressed this misconception long ago in a lectures on scaling. Addressing the idea that imperfections in the material not size would make large scale object weaker he said
Yet I shall say it and will affirm that, even if the imperfections did not exist and matter were absolutely perfect, unalterable and free from all accidental variations, still the mere fact that it is matter makes the larger machine, built of the same material and in the same proportion as the smaller, correspond with exactness to the smaller in every respect except that it will not be so strong or so resistant against violent treatment; the larger the machine, the greater its weakness.
Basically he is saying what we all know, The bigger they are the harder thy fall. It’s impossible to build two similar structures of the same material, but of different sizes and have them proportionately strong. The mater that makes up steel will be the same irregardless of the amount, the atomic bond is the same big or small.
He goes on.
And to make sure that we understand each other, I say that if we take a wooden rod of a certain length and size, fitted, say, into a wall at right angles, i. e., parallel to the horizon, it may be reduced to such a length that it will just support itself; so that if a hair’s breadth be added to its length it will break under its own weight and will be the only rod of the kind in the world.* Thus if, for instance, its length be a hundred times its breadth, you will not be able to find another rod whose length is also a hundred times its breadth and which, like the former, is just able to sustain its own weight and no more: all the larger ones will break while all the shorter ones will be strong enough to support something more than their own weight. And this which I have said about the ability to support itself must be understood to apply also to other tests; so that if a piece of scantling will carry the weight of ten similar to itself, a beam having the same proportions will not be able to support ten similar beams.
Your perceptions of things you deal with on a daily basis is not the same in the world of giants such as the WTC. You can build a desk of wood or even steel with reasonable size legs and put what to you is huge amounts of books on it and it will not fail. You can consider it common sense that a desk a thousands time bigger would be a thousands time stronger BUT you would be wrong.
The WTC were a delicate balancing act the taller you make it the stronger you need to make the supports, the bigger the supports the more weight you add and you have to now add strength to hold this extra weight. But on the other hand you build with eye towards lightness and depend on a clever distribution of loads rather then super strong (heavy) construction you can build super tall with lots of open office space.
The WTC achieved its strength not by over engineering but by a clever design that made optimum use of a center core and an outer box wall design. Unfortunately when those two elements were compromised by aircraft impacts and fire we all saw what happened, 911 would have been no surprise to Galileo.
It’s amazing you still get truthers who still try and claim that pictures like this show “Super Thermite Beam Cutting Bombs!” as if such a thing existed.
The first big call for workers to help with rescue and clean-up operations after 911 was for ironworkers with torches to help cut through the tangle of bent and broken steel beams. And if you are truly curious, like me, you would find much of the cutting on the debris pile was done with a device call a “Thermal lance or Thermic lance or Burning bar.” Basically a long metal tube with steel rods inside in which pure oxygen is introduced and ignited, burns through anything like a butter and as it is leaves slag that the dishonest truthers claim can only be the product of thermite cutting device, Never mind no one has actuality built such a device, but hell why let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good story.
And if you are Steven Jones or any of the other lamebrain truther types you find ways of ignoring pictures like these that clearly show workers doing this exact sort of cutting. Thuthers do have a way of “recycling” disinformation.
And thanks to an Italian debunker 11 SETTEMBRE we have an even clearer demonstration of how these “torches” work. Note this slab of steel is far bigger then the steel used in the towers but the torch make neat work of the job and leaves behind the molten slag the truthers say proves the use of thermite.
Look Familiar?
Reports of Controlled Demolition, Molten Steel, Thermite, etc.
Arthur Scheuerman
Many people interpreted the loud sounds and debris being projected out sideways during the Tower collapses as an indication that explosives were used to demolish the buildings. Most of these ‘explosive’ sounds, heard during the collapses were heard after the collapses began. In order for an explosion to cause a collapse it would have to occur before the collapse.
The undamaged exterior walls can be seen bending and buckling inward in the videos of both Towers long before any sounds or ground vibrations occurred. In Tower 2, the exterior columns in the east wall were photographed bowing inward up to 10 inches, 18 minutes after the plane’s impact. That’s 38 minutes before the global collapse began. To be technical, you could say that Tower 2’s collapse began slowly, with possibly some noise or impact sounds from falling floors, about 38 minutes earlier than the official collapse time. The explosive sounds and expanding dust clouds occurred just after the east wall buckled inward and started the collapse, and not before the buckling, as would have had to have happened with controlled demolition.
When the undamaged south wall of Tower 1 was photographed it was bowing inward up to 55 inches on floors 95 to 101, about six minutes before these columns were seen buckling inward. This bowing was witnessed and video taped by the Police Aviation Unit. In the North Tower “thunder” sounds were heard when some floors apparently collapsed on the south side 12 to 14 seconds before the top of the building was seen to tilt southward and begin falling as a unit starting the global collapse. Since each section of floor on the long-span side weighed about 500 tons, I would explore these ‘explosive’ sounds in Tower 1 as evidence of a floor or floors detaching and impacting the floors below on the south side which most probably accelerated south wall failure. I believe practically all the supposed ‘explosive’ sounds can be explained by the impacts made by the collapsing buildings after the columns were pulled in and buckled by the bowing and sagging floors and when the floors themselves began impacting the floors below. The boom, boom, boom, boom, boom repetitive ‘explosive’ sounds reported by firefighters running as Tower 2 was coming down were most likely caused by the sequential collision of impacting floors after the top of the building began falling. The great quantity of air on each floor being compressed in a fraction of a second by great weight and momentum would propel air, smoke, and any concrete dust and debris outward at great velocity.
Initial Collapse Cause
Much has been made of the fact that NIST only analyzed the events up to the point where the Towers were poised to collapse before runaway collapse began and failed to pursue the remaining collapse. This was largely because after collapse began the chaotic impacts of the floors, walls and columns colliding could not possibly be analyzed accurately with even the strongest computers. As it was, it was a severe strain on computer capabilities to analyze the mechanism of collapse up to the point of runaway disintegration.
It is clear from the computer studies that the heat from the fires caused differential expansion of the steel parts in the long span, floor trusses with the resulting thermal bowing in some floors directly exerting pull-in forces on the exterior columns or this thermal bowing could have detached a floor which would have impacted the floor below destroying composite action by separating the concrete slab from the trusses and inducing strong tensile (suspension) forces in the double weighted floor. In other floors thermal expansion of the floor against the columns compressed the trusses which along with shear forces within the trusses that buckled the diagonal struts collapsing the trusses which went into suspension (catenary action) and this also helped pull-in and eventually buckle the exterior column walls. Differential thermal expansion of the concrete and steel has also been shown by NIST to disconnect the knuckles (knuckles are the steel tops of the bent over bars in the trusses which are imbedded in the concrete slab) from the concrete slab causing loss of composite behavior in the floors.
All these adverse floor truss effects were caused by steel expansion which begins immediately as the steel is heated. Bowing and buckling can happen at low temperatures (400 C to 500 C) even before the steel would have weakened excessively from higher temperatures. Thermal contraction caused by cooling of sagging trusses or ‘I’ beams after the fire ‘burns out’ or dies down can cause strong pull-in forces on the exterior columns and core columns due to the contraction of the steel trusses or ‘I’ beams. Once the exterior columns buckling spread, along an entire wall removing support on one face, the buckling spread around the towers exterior and into the core and the towers began to tilt and with all the columns buckled the leaning top sections of the tower began to fall straight down. Although the North tower antenna appeared from some northern angles to have began falling straight down it actually tilted to the south because the south wall buckled first and the effectively cantilevered top building section pulled the core over to the south. This is telling since with all the damage from the plane impact on the north side the tower should have leaned over to the north. The South Tower’s top tilted to the east because its east wall buckled first. With the tower top tilting all the columns would be out of alignment.
Once the core columns got out of plumb, there would have been little resistance to their buckling at the weak splices. With the incredible weight of the top of the buildings gaining momentum, like a heavy wedge or sledge all it had to do was break the welded, and single bolt connections holding the floors to the columns. This coupled with the fact that the falling top section’s momentum increases as the square of the number of floors impacted as the floors were detached and added to the weight of the descending top. There would have been little resistance to slow the top section’s acceleration to the ground. Because this acceleration due to gravity increased the speed and momentum of the collapsing floors and building top, the impacts were increasingly violent as shown on the seismic graphs; increasing in amplitude until maximum when the mass of accumulated floors hit bedrock seven stories into the cellar.
In order for a column to support the loads it has to be plumb and in line with the columns above and below. The fact is, columns have to be axially (in line and centered) aligned to support the weight of the building above. If they get out of alignment by 10 to 20 degrees they buckle and can no longer support the weight. The buildings collapsed because the floors first caved in from restrained thermal expansion and from thermal bowing or delamination of the slab and bar joists affecting floor truss stability. The sagging floor trusses gradually pulled in the 59 columns in one exterior wall in each tower and the column walls eventually buckled removing support on one side.
There have been some engineering analyses about the impacting floors slowing down the collapse so that the time to collapse should have been much longer than ‘free fall’ times of an object dropped from the towers tops. Once the buildings started to tip over from loss of column support on one side, the tremendous excess eccentric weight began buckling all the columns across the building. Once the tilted building’s tops began descending they hit the floors or columns at eccentric angles which easily detached the floors and buckled the columns. In order for the lower building section to offer any meaningful resistance to the falling building top, the columns would have had to hit each other exactly in line and plumb and this was impossible with the top of the building leaning causing eccentric angles of impact. Once the top building section began tilting the columns on the side that originally buckled did not line up at all. These columns would have been hitting the floors and would have easily detached or buckled them. After the east wall buckled in Tower 2 the adjacent perimeter wall columns buckled from overloads and the columns on the opposite west side of the building, which acted as a hinge would still be bearing on each other but at an eccentric angle which means they also would have also eventually buckled as the top tilted. These columns along with some of the core columns as they buckled are probably what kicked the bottom of the top building section to the west as reported by NIST. Because of the weight of the accumulating collapsing floors, there was a release of incredible potential energy changing to kinetic energy and building momentum as the accumulating chaotic mass of debris accelerated into the cellars.
Since the Tower’s outer wall columns, especially in Tower 1, pealed out like a banana after the building top began to impact the floors, these wall columns may have been able to break the connections to the floors ahead of the floors being impacted? In other words, with the weight of the wall columns pealing outward from the vertical along with the added horizontal forces of impacting floors projecting debris outwards onto these columns. In other words these columns, while leaning out, might have been able to break the wall-to-floor connections ahead of the level of impacting floors? If this is possible than I believe that the connection failures could have traveled down the sides of the buildings at a speed faster than free fall times. This might explain the rapid collapses especially in Tower 1. The wall-to-floor connection failures could have traveled down the building sides faster than ‘free fall’ times and in effect started the floors falling before they were impacted by the accumulating mass of impacted floors above.
The heavy exterior wall columns in the 1500 foot high buildings while pealing off could project the column sections outwards a great distance. This distance (500 feet) was proposed as only being made possible by explosive forces. I disagree. If a wall is strong enough and doesn’t break up as it falls outward it can fall out flat to a distance equal to its height. The Tower walls, however, did break at the weak splices as they fell.
The compression of air in the elevator and air-conditioning shafts by the collapsing upper building section and floors, would project air, smoke, and dust down these shafts and out of the air intake or discharge openings on the lower mechanical equipment floors in the exterior walls. This accounts for the plumes of smoke seen projecting outwards sideways from the buildings well below the collapsing floors. There were quite extensive vertical Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning (HVAC) shafts built into the building. These shafts are connected to air conditioning exhaust and intake ducts open to the exterior on the mechanical floors. Collapse of these shafts would force the dust and smoke out these HVAC openings in the side of the building.
The lightweight aluminum cladding’s breaking free from the buckling columns also would have been propelled outward a great distance by this expanding cloud of air and dust. This would account for huge dust clouds and pieces of aluminum seen projected outwards from the upper sections of the collapsing buildings. The light reflected off these aluminum pieces at the north wall of Tower 2 would be interpreted as flashes from explosive ’squibs’. The flashes below the buckling east wall may have been from the aluminum cladding breaking free from the lower columns as they expanded after being unloaded of axial weight by the buckling of the wall above and their expansion breaking the connections to the cladding. Also explosives leave characteristic tears and fractures in steel, and such indications were not found anywhere in the debris pile.
After any fire in which a building collapses, there often remain deep seated, pockets of fire deep within the rubble pile These pockets of fire sometimes cannot be reached by water streams because of their being covered by debris. Air is sometimes drawn up from the bottom of the pile and feeds these inaccessible fires with air. These fires can last for days and the heat can become intense and can heat any steel in proximity to the fire until the steel is glowing red, orange or yellow hot. These pockets of fire are common at burning building collapses and in no way evidence that that explosives or thermite were used to demolish the buildings. These fires are similar to blacksmith fires where air is blown into the charcoals by a bellows to raise the temperature of the fire to heat a piece of steel or iron. The blacksmith can tell how hot the steel is by its color and can tell when the steel is soft enough to work it with a hammer The deep seated fires which occur in the rubble are supplied with air because natural convection currents. Heated air rises because of its bouyancy and is replaced by cool air drawn in from the bottom and sides of the fire. This air flow can become rapid because of the high temperatures developed. The more air drawn in the hotter the fire becomes and the increased temperature increases the convection currents which draws in more air. I am convinced that temperatures of over 2000 deg F. can easily be developed. This temperature, however, is still incapable of melting steel.
These deep seated fires often have to be dug out by hand tools, back hoes or grapplers in order to expose the burning material for extinguishment. It is common to hold off hitting the fire with water until it is fully exposed in order to prevent the great amount of steam that would be created from obscuring the work area until the fire is fully exposed and can be extinguished. This is what is happening in the picture of a grappler pulling out a piece of glowing hot steel from the debris pile so often described as molten steel. Such fires are incapable of melting steel unless they are supplied with pure oxygen.
Much has been made of the presence of molten metal in the debris pile after the collapse. Presumably this molten metal was somehow thought to be connected to explosions or thermite charges, but there were Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) battery rooms on some floors of the Towers and Building 7. These battery rooms supplied continuous battery power to computers if the electricity failed for any reason. These batteries contained tons of lead which melts at low temperatures [327 C (621 F)]. The heat from the fires in the debris pile could easily have melted this lead or the aluminum from the plane which were probably the metals that were seen flowing through the pile. NIST reported UPS in the 13th floor of Building 7 and the 81st floor of Tower 2. There were also quantities of lead, tin, silver and even gold used in the computer circuit boards.
Additionally the EPA reported over 400 different chemicals in the dust and debris. These chemicals could easily be assembled conceptually to propose any type of chemical reaction imaginable including thermite reactions. In addition thermite reactions are rapid and wouldn’t last the hours or days at which times the molten metal was observed. Thermite is hard to control and can’t be held against the columns because it would burn down through any material used to support it against the columns.
Pure oxygen is used in oxyacetylene torches to actually ignite burn and melt the steel when cutting. These torches were used to help clear the debris pile during search and recovery operations. A slag of melted and re-solidified steel and Ferrous oxide is formed on the opposite side of the cut. This slag formation was erroneously reported to be evidence of cutter charges having been used to sever the columns. Small molten pieces of glowing steel cool into spheres as they fly out from the cut.
About the concrete destruction into dust; F.R. Greening did a paper called Energy Transfer in the WTC Collapse in which he says “the energy required to crush concrete to 100 μm particles is 1.9 × 1011 J, which is well within the crushing capacity of the available energy. Hence it is theoretically possible for the WTC collapse events to have crushed more than 90 % of the floor concrete to particles well within the observed particle size range.” http://nistreview.org/WTC-REPORT-GREENING.pdf I would also investigate the possibility that the concrete was sub par due to freezing during curing or too much air or water having been added during construction.
Do you think the architect or engineers who built the Towers would want to admit the deficiencies in design, fireproofing and other construction weaknesses after their buildings collapsed? Do you think they will get any other jobs after 5 of their buildings collapsed from fire? (Building 5 had a serious interior multiple floor collapse due to fire.) Do you know that the Port Authority of NY, NJ didn’t have to follow any building codes? The reason the columns broke at the splices was that they had serious weaknesses due to lack of reinforcing plates or even welds on most of the exterior column, bolted splices. The long span truss floors were never tested for fire resistance at their design length. Why do you think it took so long to get the plans for the buildings after they collapsed while the building engineers had them all along? I would think the architects and engineers for 9/11 truth would be accepting any excuse to divert attention from themselves even the wild idea that explosives or thermite was involved.
About the eye witnesses; there are many reasons that loud sounds can be produced at a fire. Most of the people in tower 2 did not know tower 1 had been struck by a plane but they heard the explosion and felt the impact. There can be smoke explosions particularly in fires that have a flammable liquid involved. There were extensive fuel explosions in the elevator shafts. The one elevator shaft that extended into the cellars had a fuel explosion from the jet fuel spilling down the shaft. Most of the people in tower 1 did not know that tower 2 had collapsed but they all heard the noises and even felt the rush of air up the stairs as the air was compressed in the cellars. There could have been floor detachments impacting the floors below and producing loud sounds before any general collapse began. Explosives produce loud distinctive pressure waves that can leave people deaf of blow out eardrums and usually blow out all the windows on the particular floor. This kind of sharp piercing crack was not heard. The windows broken out and marble wall panels detached on the interior of the first floor lobby were probably because of torque forces experienced on the lower floor columns from the plane impacts many floors above. The reports of “explosions” in the cellars were also probably from such column or floor displacements or from jet fuel ignitions in the elevator shafts. If you imbed a stick into the ground and hit it with another stick most of the deformation will be in the ground around the bottom of the stick. There were reports of split walls and ceiling collapses on many floors after the planes hit.
In conclusion I think all the reports of controlled demolition can be explained by sounds or sights produced by the plane impacts and jet fuel and air explosions; the sounds of the Towers collapse, - remember most of the people in Tower 1 did not know Tower 2 had collapsed and attributed the sounds of that collapse to be happening in the building they were in. When the interior of building 7 collapsed it would have produced explosive sounds before the exterior walls began collapsing.
Its amazing to me how the ‘controlled demolition’ people most of whom have little or no knowledge or experience or expertise in the building collapse or building demolition area of expertise, just dismiss the reports of the top experts in their fields and take some bird brained radio talk shows babble as gospel. The BBC report utilized the top experts in the field. Shyam Sunder the NIST lead investigator, Gene Corley the American Society of Civil Engineers lead investigator both of whom have years and years if engineering experience. Gene Corley who was also the lead investigator in the Oklahoma City disaster, - which was destroyed by explosives, - said there was “no evidence of explosives” at the WTC site. He and Johanthan Barnett another experienced Fire Protection Engineer were on the scene and examining the steel. Dr. Barnett described the devastation caused by the interior collapse of Building 5 from fire. These are all top experts in their fields and have to get everything right in order to maintain their positions. I doubt an inexperienced person could prove them wrong on anything related to the towers collapse without years of study, but they keep trying. The vaguest possibility is immediately touted as the truth without any research or fact checking. The BBC put on the top building demolition expert Mark Loizeaux who explains how the towers collapse could not have been a controlled demolition and all he gets is blasted for being in on the conspiracy.
Four years later without inspecting any steel the Architect Richard Gage is listening to some equally uninformed Professor and has an enlightening experience and from then on he knew that the buildings “had to be brought down by explosives”. ‘That’s the only way that you could have all the exterior columns in Building 7 fail within a fraction of a second’. How do you know all the columns failed at the same moment?
These lower columns were out of sight of the cameras. The first thing to fail was the east side interior columns as evidenced by the east penthouse on the roof caving in. Five seconds later the west penthouse caved in indicating core column failure and than the exterior frame started to descend, but there were large belt trusses around the entire building between the 22nd to 24th floors. There could have been columns failing at different times below these belt trusses but these trusses held the upper building steady until a large number of lower columns had failed. Building 7 took over 13 seconds to collapse not 6.
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FYI. Arthur Scheuerman is a retired Battalion Chief from the FDNY and author of Fire in the Skyscraper, talks about the collapse of World Trade Center 7. He was there, and saw the damage, He made the professional decision that the building was probably going to collapse.
It’s 4th of July, Let blow some shit up.
Being the type who enjoys science fact rather than science fiction, I tend to watch shows dealing with how things are done in the real world. Long before 9/11 I saw a documentary on how controlled demolitions are done. Of course it is a far more complicated procedure than what is portrayed in movies. In the movies the bad guy plants a few bombs around a building and with one push of a button all hell breaks loose. Simple Right?
WRONG, if explosives had been used to collapse the towers, everyone who worked in the towers, from maintenance staff who enter places normally off-limits, to executives who never see more of the building than their private elevator and office would have known something was fishy. For one all of the structural columns on every floor of the building would have to be exposed wreaking havoc on any interior decoration that was in the way. In real controlled demolitions pre-weakening of the structure is done, beams are cut partway through, this tends to leave burned steel smells and sprays of steel fragments all over the interior. Beams must have explosives secured directly to them to have any effect, blast blankets are wrapped around them to direct the explosive force for the greatest effect.
Detonation Cord (DC) is the only reliable way to set off these explosives and it is very hard to hide. DC is used because normal wire and blasting caps tend to be too dangerous, any wire can create it’s own electrical charge in the presence of magnetic fields and it doesn’t take much to set off a high speed blasting cap. So imaging trying to wire a 110 story working office building with radios, computers wireless phones all of them presenting a risk of setting off your explosives. There is a reason cell phones are banned from areas where explosive are in use. DC on the other hand is non-electrical, it is actually high speed explosive with an established burn rate, but mile of this stuff would stick out like a sore thumb. To do what the conspiracy theorist types say you would have to connect every charge on every column on every floor to one sequencing timer so that the charges went off in the right order at exactly the right time.
Now assuming that all of the necessary hardware, explosive material, DC, and timing apparatus was somehow put in place without any users of the buildings noticing unusual activity, you are left with explaining how you crash a large airplane into the side of your carefully wired building and avoid severing any of the wires by direct shock or heat from flaming jet fuel. How it could avoid detonating any of the charges prematurely. Assuming you could somehow protect the charges and their wiring, it would be impossible to factor in the effects of an aircraft collision and subsequent fire on the structural integrity of the building when designing the arrangement and power of explosive charges. After all no one had ever imploded a 110 story building, what if you get it wrong and you don’t get a total collapse? What if some or most of the explosive fail? A real possibility and that would leave much explaining on how the explosive got there. Hell if explosive had been used evidence of them would have been found by rescue worker looking for survivors.
And this is just part of the problem, I could go on and on. Fact is the real world is much more complex than what the conspiracy theorist movie based ideas would have you believe. These people never take the logical step of asking the critical questions, “Why wouldn’t my hypothesis work?” I have also found these pimps of conspiracy ideas tend to lack the intellectual curiosity to want to learn how this stuff works, too much light tends to kill conspiracy theories, in their world ignorance truly IS bliss.
I sure don’t tolerate stupidity well, be they truthers or conservatives, and I don’t feel that stupid ideas deserves respect, Oh you can say whatever you like, but you will also have to learn to deal with scorn and humiliation if you start spouting halfwit notions in public. So when some local yokel started to tell me Barrack “Hussein” Obama is a secret Muslim who will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance I felt it necessary to inform him of his error. I guess the poor sod had been watching to much FOX news and failed to catch the obvious Swift-Boating that seems to be a part of the FOX pseudo-news coverage of late. He must have felt a little put off by my correcting his mistaken ideas because he got a little mad and asked if I felt it was OK to have a nigger or a bitch in the White House! Hum… must be a Rush Ditto head.
WELL! I was sure not going to let that one stand!
I pointed out that saying such a thing only demonstrates an extreme form of idiocy, the kind reserved for trailer trash hillbilly types with inbreeding issues. He made some rather weak insult back, something as clever as “Fuck You”. I inquired that perhaps he should be home fucking his sister like a good little redneck rather than talking about something he obviously had no clue about. No physical altercation happened and I got a good laugh out of it and maybe the clod learned a little something about spewing stupidity in public.
I hold the same destain for 9/11 conspiracy theorist. They wrap themselves in the flag of being “liberal” and then accuse hundreds if not thousands of their fellow man of being murderers or knowingly hiding the murders. They excused the real perpetrators of the crimes because of a mistaken ideas that all cultures are equal, even one that degrade woman and what to install a religious theocracy over the world with Muhammad as leader. Fuck Them! There are in fact the same as the low life mouth breathers that hate Obama because he is not quite White enough.
All I can think is that the use of Clear Eyes must cause brain damage.
Stein went on a Trinity Broadcasting Network recently and had this to say….
Stein: When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers, talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you.
Stein: …Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place, and science leads you to killing people.
Maybe Mr Stein had not had a chance to notice, that medical science alone has done more to alleviate the suffering of mankind than all the religious and political movements combined. Religion stood in the way of such well founded scientific advances like surgery because it was felt to be defiling god’s temple. The church would block the use of anesthesia because pain was considered punishment from god for some sin man committed.
When it come to barbarism no one hold a candle to religion, not even the Nazis, From christian crusades to muslim jihads killing the heretic seems to be a cornerstone of religious belief.
The illogical nature of Ben’s argument is clear, next thing he will be saying is mathematics is evil because the Nazis also used math to build guns and airplanes.
He plays the part of the insightful thinker but then makes statements that would make the people who brought you the dark ages proud.
You got to be amazed at the cognitive train wreck that is the 9/11 truth movement. And nothing demonstrates that more than the loopy list of famous truthers. Charley Sheen, Rosie O’Donnell, some dude from Blink 182, Willie Nelson,
AND NOW!………. Tommy Chong??????
And these idiots proudly advertise the fact this old stoner has jumped on bandwagon. Kind of desperate for members I guess.
So this made me think of a new game based on the Celebrity Dead Pool thing where you try and decide which famous person will die next. This would be the “Celebrity Brain Dead Pool”. Which cognitively challenged celebrity will be the next to drink the 9/11 truth Kool aid?